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[*] posted on 4/13/2010 at 08:34 PM
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The hardest part for me is starting the story. I can get the plot the ending and the character development. Why they care, why they do what they do, but starting the story never flows well. Ill build and outline and it sounds awesome to me and the others that might read it but i sit down to write and nothing.

One way or another I beat down the issue and get into the story, but I was wondering if anyone else faces this kind of problem and how they conquer it.




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[*] posted on 4/13/2010 at 09:16 PM


I used to, until I told myself that whatever I write first will not end up as the beginning, so not to worry about it.



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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 06:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Jackmoore  
The hardest part for me is starting the story. I can get the plot the ending and the character development. Why they care, why they do what they do, but starting the story never flows well. Ill build and outline and it sounds awesome to me and the others that might read it but i sit down to write and nothing.

One way or another I beat down the issue and get into the story, but I was wondering if anyone else faces this kind of problem and how they conquer it.


You could try starting with "Once Upon a Time..." ;) :)




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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 08:44 AM


Melanie is right. If more writers would completely understand that the first attempt of writing a story most definitely will not be the last, then it would be easier.

Think of the first draft of the story as a basis for how your story will end up. You can always go back and rewrite sections of the story until you're happy with it (assuming you're not going to be too critical which is a different subject entirely).

The best way to start is just to sit down and write it. Don't stress out about it, just write it. Don't think about trying to publish it, just write it.

Then see where the pieces fall and arrange as needed. :)




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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 09:34 AM


Odd--I always get the beginning right, but have NO clue where it's going after that lol. Proof positive that it takes ALL kinds of writers to create ALL kinds of different work. :)



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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 11:31 AM


I always make a comparison with making a movie - a movie is created in the cutting/editing room. First you film all the scenes and extra footage, then you shift and arrange the material in a way that makes sense to you, then you cut out all the needless scenes [holding on to them as 'deleted scenes' for the bonus DVD].

If you look at writing a book that way, just write the material, call every new chapter 'CHAPTER' and write in a more or less chronological order. Arrange the chapters, 'Omit Needless Words', 'Kill Your Darlings', and number the chapters.

No use fretting over the beginning if you haven't written anything yet.




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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 01:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Reprobate  
I always make a comparison with making a movie - a movie is created in the cutting/editing room. First you film all the scenes and extra footage, then you shift and arrange the material in a way that makes sense to you, then you cut out all the needless scenes [holding on to them as 'deleted scenes' for the bonus DVD].

If you look at writing a book that way, just write the material, call every new chapter 'CHAPTER' and write in a more or less chronological order. Arrange the chapters, 'Omit Needless Words', 'Kill Your Darlings', and number the chapters.

No use fretting over the beginning if you haven't written anything yet.


For a second I thought you said "Kill your Daughter" and I was a bit concerned.




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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 02:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by boatkicker  
For a second I thought you said "Kill your Daughter" and I was a bit concerned.


Why? If it helps to bring the plot forward, you have to put the protagonist in dire straits - if that means kill his daughter, then kill his daughter...




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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 04:10 PM


You can always re-write the intro once you have the story going if you don't care for it. After getting a feel for the story as a whole the intro might write itself....



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[*] posted on 5/7/2010 at 07:56 PM


Sometimes my stories flow from beginning to end and sometimes I get sections here and there, an ending first, a middle first. It seems to vary. I know I will not end up with the exact thing I started with anyhow with editing, new brainstorms, characters or plots that take over and change my original ideas. Writing is a work in flux until it goes to print and even then I sometimes see things I would like to change.

So I follow whatever flow is leading me at the time, then worry about getting it all together once I have the pieces. The muse does not always call in logical order.




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[*] posted on 5/16/2010 at 09:07 PM


I love Reprobate's comparison with movie making, I find myself using film editing techniques of moving whole scenes back and forth in my book. Now I was raised on movies and TV and that is how I think.

My first book I started with a teaser type opening leaving the reader wanting more then I followed that thought logically and the book sort of wrote itself but I could not find a good ending so I kind of made a circle back to the beginning. Works fine. For example start with a baby boy following as he grows to manhood then end it with the birth of his own son. The movie Spartacus ended with Kirk Douglas crucified and his GF holds up his son. Full circle.

War Movies always seem to end at the end of the war, well duh, but in real life there is something afterwards. I went to serve in Iraq after Sept. 11th, I was there a year came back to no wife, no home, and no job. Not a cool ending but it is true.

So you start with a "Where were you when the Japs bombed the Alamo?" follow through the story and a little epilogue to show the new path. Example: WWI led to economic disaster which led to WWII which led to more economic disaster which logically should have led to WWIII right? Wrong, new path to peace and love and capitalism. So the story of WWII starts at the end of WWI and ends in the 1970s. Does that make any sense?




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